Andie Kramer and Al Harris: What to do about Workplace Bias

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Why is career advancement for women more difficult than it is for men? What can women do to fight the bias at workplaces?

People put you into buckets based on who they perceive you to be. Women have had it all rough. Their ambitions and competence get questioned all the time. For instance, how can she deliver at work yet she has a baby to nurture? How can she be so ambitious?

Our guests today are here to help us understand how we can fight bias at workplaces. According to our guests, it all begins with demonstrating confidence, even when you are not confident.

Women are very often perceived as too weak, too sweet, too nice to be effective. If they’re very effective, then they’re considered to be unpleasant and unlikeable.

We hope you enjoy the podcast. All the highlights, resources, and next steps can be found below. Listen to the full episode here and learn more at betterleadersbetterschools.com

Key Talking Points 

  • How to deal with stereotyping that comes from transitioning from a smaller firm to a larger firm
  • Where do we begin the journey of being comfortable to talk about our accomplishments?
  • How can we enroll men in the bias conversation, and how can we get them to invest in the needed change?
  • Goldilocks dilemma

Key Milestones of the Episodes

 [03:22]  Transitioning from a smaller firm to a larger firm. How to deal with the stereotyping

 [06:26]  Talking about our accomplishments

 [07:42]  How can we engage men in the conversation against bias?

 [11:10]  Goldilocks dilemma

Key Quotes

  1.   “The way we present ourselves gives other people an idea of who we are.”
  2.   “The balance between communal and agentic behaviors is dependent on the ability to manage the impressions that you create that other people have of you.”

 Key Resources 

  1. Website
  2. Twitter
  3. It’s Not You It’s the Workplace: Women’s Conflict at Work and the Bias that Built It by Andrea S. Kramer and Alton  B. Harris

About Our Guest

Andie Kramer and Al Harris are married practicing lawyers. They have been mentoring women and speaking and writing about gender communication for more than 30 years. Andie and Al offer women unique, balanced, and highly practical advice they can use to prevent gender biases from slowing or derailing their careers.  

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