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We all know there a times when we have to “tell like it is” in a conversation. Yet, there is no roadmap to having these conversations. How you do give clear feedback without sounding rude or inconsiderate? How do we create environments where staff can move from “being nice” to telling us the truth when it matters?
These are the questions (and more) that Joseph and TJ cover in this episode
We hope you enjoy the podcast. All the highlights, resources, and next steps can be found below. Listen to the full episode here and learn more at betterleadersbetterschools.com
[7:20] How do we break out a culture of trying to be nice all the time
[9:00] What are some common misperceptions people have about having candid conversations?
[17:35] What should we do if our best practices and strategies aren’t working?
[24:22] Being candid with yourself
[26:50] How to encourage candid conversations with staff
[29:17] How do we empower teachers to be more candid leaders?
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“Very often when we talk about candor,it’s associated with being rude..”
“Unfortunately, we often miss the mark in order to help people…because we sugarcoat things.”
“The relationship is far better when we have a firm ground on which to start it.”
“With precision, you can go faster.”
Candid and Compassionate Feedback by Joseph Jones & Dr. TJ Vari
Nuance: Why Some Leaders Succeed and Others Fail by Michael Fullen
Both of our guests are school administrators and educators.
Dr. Joseph Jones is the Director of Assessment and Accountability in the New Castle County Vocational-Technical School District. Dr. T.J. Vari is the Assistant Superintendent of Secondary Schools and District Operations in the Appoquinimink School District. Dr. Jones and Dr. Vari are co-authors of the new book: Candid and Compassionate Feedback: Transforming Everyday Practice in Schools.
Dr. TJ Vari LinkedIn
Dr. Joseph Jones LinkedIn
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